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MCI urged to review Stand on Signing of Lab Reports

MCI urged to review Stand on Signing of Lab Reports

The National M.Sc. Medical Teachers’ Association (NMMTA) requested the Medical Council of India (MCI) to review its notification which clarified that only MBBS doctor can sign lab reports.

As per the MCI’s notification the candidates having M.Sc with PhD or PhD in medical microbiology, medical biochemistry, life sciences, applied biology, cytogenetics and biotechnology are not eligible for singing lab reports.

“The recent letter written by the Medical Council of India (MCI) to the National Accreditation Board for Testing and Calibration Laboratories (NABL) regarding eligibility to sign diagnostic laboratory reports has not gone down well with the biomedical scientists possessing medical M.Sc. degree,” NMMTA President Sridhar Rao said.

Medical Dialogues team had earlier reported that the Medical council of India through the said letter to NABL had communicated its decision of its on the issue of who is eligible as a signatory authority for medical laboratory reports. The MCI had stated its decision as, “All lab reports to be signed/countersigned by persons registered with MCI/State Medical Council, ” which implied that MBBS can sign lab reports, but not Medical Msc/PhDs.

Read also: Only MBBS can sign lab reports, Msc Cannot: MCI

The move has not gone well with the NMMTA, which has shown strong opposition to the MCI decision.The M.Sc. Medical Teachers’ Association was seem mentioning the country’s dilemma of shortage of doctors, as a result the MCI’s decision will disturb the country’s work process.

Currently, the document 112 of NABL provides authorized signatory roles for medical M.Sc. degree holders in the disciplines of microbiology and biochemistry.

“Apparently, under the pressure from non-clinical doctors, the NABL was pressurized to exclude non-doctors from this role. The NABL sought the MCI’s opinion. After a delay of nearly three years, the MCI replied that all lab reports should be signed/counter-signed by persons registered with MCI/State Medical Councils,” Rao said.

He said this is in “stark contrast” to its previous stand.

“In 2005, the members of the Ad hoc Committee appointed by the Supreme Court and of the Executive Committee of the MCI had approved the decision of the Ethics Committee that M.Sc. (Medical Biochemistry) is entitled to independently sign a medical biochemistry report in a clinical laboratory,” he said.

The National M.Sc. Medical Teachers’ Association will meet  Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Health Minister J.P. Nadda to “convince them the importance of biomedical scientists in the diagnostic laboratories”.

Source: with inputs from IANS
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  1. user
    Sridhar Kesireddy July 8, 2017, 12:22 pm

    The actual, active and potential work force who handle 80-90% of the calibrations, procedures and protocols involve in lab tests are being forgotten and ignored. Importance is given only for the token signatories (Who do not regularly involve in the bench work and procedures) in the name of ensuring and improving quality out put. Our nation is backward in R & D just because of such policies.

  2. An MBBS studies more than 20 subjects including big and small during their course. An Msc PhD does 3 basic science subjects in Msc and chooses one topic to do their PhD. Most of the time is spent in politics and buttering.( I am not saying all but most) Their knowledge base is very limited in comparison to an MBBS. It\’s the Msc PhD lobbies which have notoriously called them equal. Shame on you ignorant people. How are you comparing apple and oranges ? You are not even qualified to register with MCI. An in the past all the Msc PhD who have signed reports resulting in false interpretation or death of patients should be charged with medical negligence and be punished for exercising undue authority. It\’s a scam which has been running for years.

  3. MSc PhD should dedicate their time in doing valuble research and contributing to the country rather than arguing about signing reports. They have brought down the standards of laboratory practice as they don\’t understand the value of lab report. It\’s just a document which gives them some authority and feel good effect. They are creating barriers in taking the laboratory medicine to the next level by having limited knowledge, narrow vision and greater authority. All these Msc PhD lobbies have always tried to grab authority and undermine the seriousness of laboratory medicine. Authority has been transferred in right hands of MD\’s in Clinical Biochemistry and Clinical Microbiology. This must be shock to the Msc PhD lobbies who have been feeding corrupt politicians and beaurocrates to undermine the standards of medicine. Concentrate on research and contribute something. This is what you have been trained in.

  4. Dear Raghav…
    An your confession says MScs and PhDs developed the diagnostics field to this level, which far far better than 50 years ago.They studied researched , discovered new tests and taught you people previously. Designed the standards like NABL 112, ISOs, . Now you says they should leave from lab field. Great sir.

    what about an MBBS sign in Path reports or bio or micro or immuno reports without a benchwork knowledge.If they are eligible why you people studied MD in non clinical subjects.Pretty Ridiculous.

  5. A person who does MBBS is already a physician. People take up pre and para clinical subjects out of interest because they can see the value of it after going through 15-20 subjects of medicine. The whole perspective changes ones you have lot of knowledge and awareness. You may not be able to appreciate this unfortunately.Times have changed. You should change your outdated mind set which arises due to inadequate and very limited knowledge about medicine. All of you could not get into medicine so you try a different route. That shows your frustration. PhD with limited knowledge are preventing integration of medicine which is the future of medicine. Please get involved in doing active research for which you have been trained. MBBS curriculum can be changed suitably in future in order to make students more capable.
    Physicians hesitate to take your opinion as you have very limited knowledge of medicine. This hampers a lot of fruitful interaction. If you open your mind and come out of your illusions state of superiority complex, you will some day understand. Just because you quack quack like a duck…it does not mean you are a duck.
    Technicians do most of the job in the lab..quality control is not rocket science. Come down from your ivory towers and stop feeling too important. Shallow thinkers.

  6. The physicians prefer taking my opinion rather than the MDs in my working place she cant even identify bacteria wat will she interpret and report. MD pathologists dont even know the colour of basic stains. They give their stamps to the peripheral labs where testing and reporting is done by technicians who give them a monthly payment for their name n signature. I feel you dont get enough patients to see in your OPD or whichever field you specialise in so you have all the time for troubling others and poking your nose. You fill up your pockets with the cuts and commissions from the labs where you send investigations uselessly n extract as much as you can from patients. My dear sit back and publish some papers instead if you have done any genuine MD thesis n if its not a copy paste. Add to the medical literature. You are noone to decide anybodies potential and calibre and give instructions to them that what they should do. In that case i will give u a suggestion to join politics because free people fit there better. We have protected many of your coworkers from the clutches of police as they have been cuaght selling blood units from blood bank to the locals for their livelihood. If we had not saved them the colleges approval would be at stake and so would be the future of some 600 MBBS students. Dont speak of ethics, doesnt suit you. If you are a genuinely educated person and well brought up your thoughts and manner of speech should be refined unfortunately you are quacking like a duck. Live and let live

  7. Miss Lekha,

    I can appreciate your frustration and your art of argument where, easily you can declare yourself as the savior of this world and medical profession. If only you had known how much of work it takes to study and crack a MBBS seat, how difficult it is to crack a PG seat. All this effort of a person, you wash away with your silly argument by quoting few villains in the field of medicine and proclaiming all the people who study 3 subjects in Msc and spend 3 years on researching on just ONE TOPIC to get a PhD. ( By the way I have come across many Phd\’s who buy their degrees as its not MCI regulated and frankly no one cares) are HOLY cows and the world would stop without some of those who unnecessarily feel too important. I wish you will educate your children well, help them crack an MBBS entrance and then realize, what is the difference between an MBBS and PhD. All those people who were running illegal businesses by signing reports, the easy money which came out of being less qualified, will all stop now. It will hurt the crooks, but it\’s for greater good.
    Calm down and think before maligning others. There are few rotten apples in medicine profession. Rest of them are hard working people. Unfortunately you are working with compromised people. If you are so honest , why don\’t you report such people and stand on the side of good. Let me guess, you are working with them so that you get the responsibility and feel more important.
    If you are so honest and rituous report those doing wrong and find a different colleague. It\’s a pity that you haven\’t met great doctors to actually understand what it means to be one.

  8. At least you admit that there are villians in the medical profession who walk off with brief cases full of money while giving approvals to medical colleges and bringing out candidates like you who have all the free time. As for my children i dont need ur instructions as to how i hv to bring them up and wat career they would opt. By the way i have passed out from the most prestigious medical institutes be it south or north, have many international publications, with the most prestigeous people whose chapters and books you must have read. I have even contributed to some of those as editor and devised special staining techniques which were done for the fist time in the country. So you dont bother about me. I never came across such comments from the people i worked with because they were real educated people who realised the importance of research and everybody in the working community.Given a choice i would like to speak with your gaurdians and request them to send you back to preschool once again and educate you to speak in public and specially with females. And yes you are correct i should have sent the reporters and police to the people cuaght red handed but held myself back considering the goodwill of the college. I dont need to show that i am superior to anyone i know myself and i dont need to prove myself to a crook like you (sorry! m not used to using such language but if you call me so you give me the right to lash back at you too) By the way i should at this moment intimate the female police to get hold of you too for being indecent publically to a female. At least they will teach you the lesson which u cudnt get in your forming years at school and it will be enough to make your chattering mouth shut. And it should be intimated to your wife too so that she teaches you to speak properly in public when it comes to females (again if you will pass personal comments as in for my children etc you wont be able to stop me from doing the same) . By the way be careful the next time your bell rings you may see some female in a khaki ready to teach you some good lessons and educate you to speak publically with females……. Tring tring ……..And with this i put an end to my replies to you as i dont have time to waste i have to go for reporting patients are waiting for the reports………tring tring be careful…..and yes try to be more constructive in life this is the only advice that i can give you. Life is short so spend time wid your family and leave some good memories in the world instead of taking curses on your head. And yes plz let your children enjoy life and dont ever educate them to be a doctor n spend so many years in studying so many subjects (who asked you to do so u cud hv spent time knowing the world around you and linking with people more from the heart than just seeing them as money bags in ur clinic) else there will be few more frustated personalities in the community because we pass on to younger generations what we are. If we are well mannered and good we sow the seeds of a good civilization. U get my point Mr. ……… Tring tring 😀

  9. I would never hire a PhD myself or even let my friends know about this and make sure none of them ever enter my institutions.
    Some people have less brains and longer toungue. Congratulations!

  10. Scared ???? Hire a PhD??? U speak as if u are the creator and know how much grey matter u put into each and everyone 😀 Spend ur life trying to check out how much was instilled into u first… MSc PhDs do da bench work means they are practical they just dont hv longer tongues their hands also enlarge while doing the practicals n standardizing things 👊👊

  11. i think the signature is only of MSc who has devoted three and a half year to specialize the subject and same is with Phd. person with MBBS has only spent 3 months exclusively with biochemistry subject in 1st MBBS. yes MD has spent 3 yrs which is less compared to MSCandPhD collectively. But the investigations are done by lab technician, neitherMSc or MBBS candidate does so, they only sign. clinicians see report and infer. so whythe hue and cry about signature. till now everything going fine. is it not thenarrow thinking of so called medicos. there are so many labs of national and international repute and nonmedicos are preferred overmedicos. do the doctors now consider MSc and PhD\’s as threat? as they are not getting required jobs orare less paid?

  12. Basically MDs in para clinical subjects are frustated because they couldn\’t make it to clinical/surgical subjects and have all the free time for posting comments tweeting and trying to spoil the harmony. They are forgetting that it is the MCI itself which designates MSc\’s and PhDs as faculties in colleges and the colleges get approval from the MCI due to their presence. The students are fed up especially in rural medical colleges because their medico teachers who happen to be on permanant posts and who are not supposed to do private practice are fooling the state govt and disobeying its rules by running away from their OPDs for personal clinics and labs not caring to impart their so called precious knowledge to their MBBS students. These doctors and surgeons are performing hysterectomies recklessly on poor and uneducated patients spoiling their bodies forever by telling them that they have been suffering from malignancies. They are enjoying all the luxuries with this type of earned money even sending their own kids to private medical and dental colleges by paying huge amount of donations. When we speak of labs i have personally worked in few reputed ones where the owner is an MD Microbiology and doesnt allow his staff to put antibiotic sensitivity testing which is the most imp test to be performed and the reports are just given by doing merely the gram stain. I left the lab in just 10 days as i couldnt tolerate it. There is an MD Microbiology from a very reputed institution known to me who can\’t differentiate between a lactose fermenter or a non lactose fermenter which even the technician and attendant of the deptt can do. You speak of MBBS students signing reports they cannot even write the name of bacteria properly and when I correct the copies they make an entire new bacteria for examle Streptococcus aureus. So those who have their houses made of glass shouldnt throw stones at others and try to disrupt their positions and jobs. It seems the medical peoples ethics has gone to the dogs wherefore THEY should be ashamed of operating on innocent patients and what reports of precision they can give without identifying bacteria or doing antibiotic testing only GOD knows. Most of the people i know as pathologists and microbiologists havent kept the required instruments and reagents even in their labs they bribe the technical staff of govt colleges where they are employed and bring lab work in the college thereby eating away the state treasury money also how greedy and shameless they can be.

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    Dr Mamina Bhoi July 7, 2017, 11:14 am

    It is a long pending decision taken by MCI.This will ensure quality to patients.

  14. does not ensure quality of reports or patients bcoz none of the Dr, does investigation, its the lab technicians who do.